eSignature in embedded PDF

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

Mike Schmitt — Thu, 25 Aug 2022 15:38:00 GMT

Our end users in Appian are not users within the Adobe system at all (save for a few admin accounts that create / edit / manage the templates). We handle it all by the "signer email" (and similar) fields that get passed in at document creation.

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

Harinath — Thu, 25 Aug 2022 14:56:21 GMT

Hi Mike,

Thanks for you response.

We have achieved the required connectivity using API KEY. We added an additional functionality “Authoring” in our application. When The user upload the document he get the PDF document in AUTHORING state where he can drag and drop the SIGNATURE BLOCK inside PDF and send the document for signature.

As per the attached screenshot, When we upload the PDF document for e-signature the form should automatically be logged into Adobe.

As we are loading Adobe using the “WEB CONTENT” component the login happens only when we already authenticated Adobe in a different browser.

We are trying to authenticate the user within Appian without Adobe login into another browser.

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

Mike Schmitt — Thu, 25 Aug 2022 14:40:48 GMT

Do you mean for our personal (admin) login purposes or for authenticating through Appian? If the latter, as I mentioned above, we're using API Key.

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

MFasciano — Thu, 25 Aug 2022 14:39:19 GMT

That's our objective as well. Assuming you're using SSO to authenticate with Adobe?

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

Mike Schmitt — Thu, 25 Aug 2022 14:37:21 GMT

Generally speaking that's all set up for them in Appian - we try to limit their need to directly interact with Adobe Sign as much as possible, to keep them within the Appian ecosystem mainly.

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

MFasciano — Thu, 25 Aug 2022 14:13:06 GMT

Hi Mike, thanks again for the helpful feedback on this. Last question (I hope), when the workflow is started, are your users preparing the workflow assignments (e.g.: responsible signers) directly in Appian or a separate window in Adobe Sign?

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

Mike Schmitt — Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:33:22 GMT

No, our connected system uses API Key.

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

MFasciano — Wed, 17 Aug 2022 13:46:05 GMT

Are you using "OAuth 2.0: Authorization Code Grant"? That is what we've configured, which has resulted in the recurring issues with the authorization token refresh.

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

Mike Schmitt — Wed, 17 Aug 2022 13:32:08 GMT

We've actually never had an issue with the auth token either way. Are you not using a Connected System into echosign with an API Key? AFAIK we've never needed to change ours since it's been set up.

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

MFasciano — Wed, 17 Aug 2022 13:22:51 GMT

Hi Mike, our development team is running into some issues with the Adobe Sign integration where the authentication token needs to be manually refreshed every hour. Did you experience this issue as well? If so, any insight on how this was resolved?

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

Mike Schmitt — Thu, 09 Jun 2022 20:37:19 GMT

I don't have any specific insight into the particulars of using DocuSign URLs - i haven't seen an error message similar to the one you describe when designing or testing Adobe Sign documents though.

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

chitra_sharma — Thu, 09 Jun 2022 19:41:48 GMT

Hi Mike, I am doing the same way using DocuSign and signing is working fine but when signing is completed(Click on Finish) the web content field fails to load the returned url and returns the error as - Unsafe content detected and removed. Please reload to continue. Any solution for this.

PS: Same URL works fine when test in unnamed interface within web content field. I am still trying to understand why web content field component behave so differently.

Thanks is advance.

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

Mike Schmitt — Thu, 19 May 2022 14:09:02 GMT

Cool, thanks for the feedback. When you get a chance I'd appreciate if you could click "verify answer" (or whatever option you're presented with), just for those elusive Community brownie points 😉

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

MFasciano — Thu, 19 May 2022 13:50:31 GMT

Thanks again for sharing. This is a great reference for our team as they proceed with planning and design for this functionality. Appreciate your help!

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

Mike Schmitt — Tue, 17 May 2022 16:25:59 GMT

Correct - the Adobe Sign integration was built such that it simply embeds the "Signing URL" returned by the integration, and this can be consumed by the (OOTB) Web Content viewer field.

I don't have any screenshots prepared that might not have project-specific details shown, but if I stumble on any I'll let you know. But I can confirm you'd be able to implement it in a pretty similar fashion to your mock-up screenshot, and without the silly "page preview" pane showing on the left, as an added bonus.

Edit to add: here's a screenshot of a (redacted) live task in our system, and yes, some users still do manage to miss the font-size-one-million bright-red warning text.

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

MFasciano — Tue, 17 May 2022 16:01:31 GMT

Hi Mike, this is super helpful. If I understand the pain point correctly, it's due to the approver having to complete/submit their signature and also click the submit button for the Appian workflow approval. If that's the case, I personally would prefer that over the user being required to open a separate link to DocuSign to enter their signature while still completing the Appian approval.

To confirm, you have it configured so the Adobe Sign is embedded within Appian, correct? For example, in the screenshot I included in my post, our preference is for the user to enter their signature directly in that PDF pane.

Do you have any screenshots or reference documents you can share?

RE: eSignature in embedded PDF

Mike Schmitt — Tue, 17 May 2022 15:50:38 GMT

I currently work with a system using the Adobe Sign integration. Overall it works well. The main issue we keep running into (which is more of a User Training issue, and more of an issue with Adobe Sign itself than with Appian), is that when the user gets their Appian task containing a portal to fill and/or sign their Adobe Sign document, the Adobe Sign integration contains its own "Complete" or "Submit" button, and the users will merely do that and then close the Appian task without hitting any Submit button. This, of course, prevents the Appian process from proceeding which is critical.

This still happens (if somewhat less) even after we've added large, bold, obvious instruction text on the form header explaining that they absolutely must press the button OUTSIDE the integration pane labelled "send to reviewer" (etc). AFAIK there would still be the same type of issue regardless of the type of integration used. For now we're just doubling down on the "user training" angle to solve this issue.